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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163674710" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163674710">(Apr 18 2019 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hi <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1095">@WG-meta</span> -- Ye Olde Meeting Time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163674740" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163674740">(Apr 18 2019 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah, I didn’t get a chance to do the things I wanted to do.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163674751" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163674751">(Apr 18 2019 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Heh, welcome to my life!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163674763" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163674763">(Apr 18 2019 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>But also -- I feel like we had a great, definitive meeting last week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163674775" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163674775">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I totally forget what we said</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163674883" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163674883">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see this comment in there:</p>
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<p>ok so I think this leaves us with the following "active work items" at the moment?</p>
<ul>
<li>finish up the out-of-tree crate policy</li>
<li>contributor RFC</li>
<li>planning for mentorship RFC</li>
<li>design meeting -- waiting for discussion tomorrow</li>
<li>document "how to run a WG" -- waiting a bit for more experience</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163674914" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163674914">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>It seems like our <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/meta-working-group-planning--AbfLnprdza2n9I1KURx9ousMAg-09U5endyK7vaoQhaiQ7TI" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/meta-working-group-planning--AbfLnprdza2n9I1KURx9ousMAg-09U5endyK7vaoQhaiQ7TI">Dropbox paper</a> hasn't really been updated</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163674939" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163674939">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>But one thing I wanted to do was try to advance the contributor RFC</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675056" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675056">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see we have a request from <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@oli</span> to add the diagnostics WG</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675069" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675069">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/54" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/54">compiler-team#54</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675092">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>a few pending nits</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675181" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675181">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Looking at <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/52" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/52">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/52</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675382" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675382">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess the major things not included yet are:</p>
<ul>
<li>some guidance when to add someone to contributor. I suggested the metric of whether they have "staying power", but I was finding it hard to articulate that more precisely when I tried to make the edits.</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675424" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675424">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
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<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/52#discussion_r274661967" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/52#discussion_r274661967">the notion of adding a "subtitle"</a> -- is that something to include here? or should we file it as a future extension?</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675469" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675469">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
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<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/52#discussion_r274663884" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/52#discussion_r274663884">whether to mention leading/co-leading a WG</a> -- I will try to add a sentence of some kind</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675494" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675494">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Subtitle is more a property of how we display the membership than the membership itself. Unless you want to add it because it explicitly makes space for non-code roles.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675499" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675499">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123856">@Vadim Petrochenkov</span>'s question of "what if you want to step back a bit but not full alumni"</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675581" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675581">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
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<li><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="129356">@Zack M. Davis</span>'s notes on "cnosult the expert map" (seems straightforward)</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675599" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675599">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>So, of these, I guess the trickiest one is <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123856">@Vadim Petrochenkov</span>'s comment.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675635" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675635">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I .. feel like a perfectly reasonable thing would be to drop back to contributor, but another option would be to better define the subset of members that are "active", or just...it's fine.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675649" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675649">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm inclined to leave it as a Future Work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675682" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675682">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
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<p>just...it's fine.</p>
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<p>by this I mean, it's ok to be a member who is not all that active just now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675692" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675692">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> Any thoughts on Eisenberg's comment?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675767" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675767">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Like, why bother to formalize this?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163675844" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163675844">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess the motivation gives the "very short" answer already</p>
<blockquote>
<p>This proposal is part of a larger effort to introduce more structure<br>
into the compiler team's makeup. This structure should make it easier<br>
to become a part of the compiler team, by laying out a clear path to<br>
membership and by offering more official roles.</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676082" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676082">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Something that is not in the RFC, but perhaps should be, is moderation</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676110" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676110">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>In particular, I think that anybody with r+ rights has extra obligations, as a member of the org, is to be held to a higher standard when it comes to the CoC</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676152" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676152">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:15)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>some guidance when to add someone to contributor. I suggested the metric of whether they have "staying power", but I was finding it hard to articulate that more precisely when I tried to make the edits.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think so long as it doesn't suggest that the only contributing factor to being granted "compiler team contributorship" is time, there's some element of a compiler team member suggesting someone is "ready".</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676197" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676197">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it would be beneficial to track what we're working on with issues on the compiler-team repository that we can assign to people. I'd find it helpful for keeping on top of what I've been assigned and having somewhere I can post updates or questions.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676238" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676238">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>hm, so perhaps there are two criteria</p>
<ul>
<li>staying power</li>
<li>acting independently?</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676259" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676259">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I think it would be beneficial to track what we're working on with issues on the compiler-team repository that we can assign to people. I'd find it helpful for keeping on top of what I've been assigned and having somewhere I can post updates or questions.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yeah, I like this idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676269" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676269">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we can use the remainder of this time to create issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676342" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676342">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>hm, so perhaps there are two criteria</p>
<ul>
<li>staying power</li>
<li>acting independently?</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>does that sound plausible, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span>? I could also leave it a bit undefined, as an "unresolved question" to be filled in with more experience</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676481" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676481">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>hm, so perhaps there are two criteria</p>
<ul>
<li>staying power</li>
<li>acting independently?</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>Perhaps. In the GitHub comments you said:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>if the person has completed 2 or 3 independent, non-trivial "projects"</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I'm just not sure that there's a clear pool of potential projects that one could take on, in order to act independently.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676612" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676612">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think "quality" matters too; but that's mostly for team members to judge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676630" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676630">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>and breadth of knowledge as well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676684" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676684">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>My only reservation was wanting to avoid the situation where someone who had been contributing regularly felt entitled to being a compiler team contributor based on how long they'd contributing (perhaps basing that timeframe on how long other people were contributing before becoming compiler team contributors), even if the compiler team felt it wasn't a right fit (for whatever reason). Some sort of wording that elaborates on that idea, that it isn't <em>just</em> a function of time, it's a decision that team members make too.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676723" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676723">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>not for people with r+ tho, I think breadth of knowledge isn't necessary for that; specialist knowledge seems sufficient</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676860" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676860">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>So I wrote this:</p>
<p>It is hard to define the precise conditions when such a promotion is<br>
appropriate. But the general sense is that someone is ready when they<br>
have demonstrated three things:</p>
<ul>
<li>"Staying power" -- the person should be contributing on a regular<br>
  basis in some way. This might for example mean that they have<br>
  completed a few projects.</li>
<li>"Independence and familiarity" -- they should be acting somewhat<br>
  independently when taking on tasks, at least within the scope of the<br>
  working group. They should plausibly be able to mentor others on simple<br>
  PRs.</li>
<li>"Cordiality" -- contributors will be members of the organization and<br>
  are held to a higher standard with respect to the [Code of<br>
  Conduct][CoC]. They should not only obey the letter of the CoC but<br>
  also its spirit.</li>
</ul>
<p>[CoC]: <a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/code-of-conduct" target="_blank" title="https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/code-of-conduct">https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/code-of-conduct</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676870" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676870">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm don't want to appear as if I'm interested in trying to "gatekeep" who can become a compiler team contributor, I'm just a regular contributor like anyone else, I'm just trying to anticipate what problems could occur with a given wording.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676872" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676872">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I was typing independently)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676886" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676886">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>But I was debating if I should include an extra proviso</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163676904" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163676904">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span>  don't worry; I think you are raising really good points!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677021" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677021">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe something like</p>
<blockquote>
<p>However, it's important to emphasize that being promoted to<br>
contributor is not a function of checking various boxes. There is a<br>
remaining element of "readiness" that is harder to define (perhaps we<br>
will refine the criteria above with more experience).</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677082" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677082">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Although I sort of feel like, if people fulfill those 3 conditions above, they probably <em>should</em> be a contributor</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677104" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677104">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> I think that's a good wording, it gives an idea of what qualities are desirable in a compiler team contributor, but doesn't make it a list of concrete criteria.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677131" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677131">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and the follow-up paragraph too, that you sent while I was typing)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677190" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677190">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Although I sort of feel like, if people fulfill those 3 conditions above, they probably <em>should</em> be a contributor</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think in 99% of cases that'll be true.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677213" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677213">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>However, it's important to emphasize that being promoted to<br>
contributor is not a function of checking various boxes. There is a<br>
remaining element of "readiness" that is harder to define (e.g. such<br>
as quality of contributions and breadth of knowledge,<br>
perhaps we will refine the criteria above with more experience).</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677230" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677230">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am wary of having talk that sounds like "cultural fit", which can be a bad sign</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677246" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677246">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Something I realize I might not have said -- did I write in this RFC <em>how</em> the decision is made?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677254" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677254">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think I did</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677259" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677259">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Something I realize I might not have said -- did I write in this RFC <em>how</em> the decision is made?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Don't think so.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677395" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677395">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, I'm going to add that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677403" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677403">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wound up nixing the extra paragraph but adding one sentence from it elsewhere</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677422">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Anyway, besides me live-editing, you mentioned making issues, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677427" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677427">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe we should spend a few minutes trying to dig into that?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677434" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677434">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>One thing that's been on my mind is the design meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677456" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677456">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., I think there's some work to be done yet trying to prep for that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677483" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677483">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm happy for us to do that. I think, perhaps ironically as wg-meta, that we could do a slightly better job keeping track of what we're working on.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677485" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677485">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, you were doing stuff with the out-of-crate policy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677504">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>that woudl be great, I'm just not sure if you know (or I know...?) what issues to open</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677509">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've yet to revisit that, hopefully tonight if I have time.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677528" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677528">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think though that I will make the final edits to this RFC and move it to the real repository</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677533" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677533">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>You can open an issue for out of crate policy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677603" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677603">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe i'll open one for the design meeting and try to list a few steps</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677649" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677649">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>You could open an issue to gather thoughts and ideas about the mentorship proposal, that was one of the bulletpoints from last week.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677652" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677652">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think idealy we'd have an RFC for that too, but we can start doing it before it's all done. I liked the 4 week sequence proposal, we can start with that. We need a place for people to put proposals, and probably a (very simple) template</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677657">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:30)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>You could open an issue to gather thoughts and ideas about the mentorship proposal, that was one of the bulletpoints from last week.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677694" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677694">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Or just an issue to do it, so we can track that in our weekly meeting - triage the compiler-team issues.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677851" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677851">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I opened <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/56" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/56">compiler-team#56</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677885" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677885">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/57" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/57">compiler-team#57</a>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163677956" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163677956">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm opening an issue for the design meeting notes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678116" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678116">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>[I have some updates for the bots situation btw, will be able to talk about it in ~30min]</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678166" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678166">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>And <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/58" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/58">compiler-team#58</a> which I've been meaning to do.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678174" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678174">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Opened <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/59" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/59">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/59</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678176" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678176">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>(design meeting)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678178" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678178">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>What's up <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678233" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678233">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah, right, we were going to talk about triagebot etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678286" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678286">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> I am reminded we wanted to have some kind of "working group leadership advice" -- I'm not sure what the right steps are for that, but we should have an issue to talk about it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678300" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678300">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll make one?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678368" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678368">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span>  t-lang pre-triage?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678402" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678402">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep, I'm looking for my headphones</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678724" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678724">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do we still want an RFC for working groups <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span>? It was listed on the paper document.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678775" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678775">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>We should also work out how to track <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/sync-cargo-lock" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/sync-cargo-lock">topics like these</a>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163678935" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163678935">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it's a good us for us to define more precisely what a working is and isn't etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163679310" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163679310">(Apr 18 2019 at 18:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've created a whole bunch of initial issues.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163687104" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163687104">(Apr 18 2019 at 20:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> sorry for not being able to attend, on vacations <span aria-label="blush" class="emoji emoji-1f60a" role="img" title="blush">:blush:</span> <span aria-label="island" class="emoji emoji-1f3dd" role="img" title="island">:island:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163687143" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163687143">(Apr 18 2019 at 20:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>just read what you’ve said and the meeting was great</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163687234" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163687234">(Apr 18 2019 at 20:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>100% agree with <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> 3 points <span aria-label="blush" class="emoji emoji-1f60a" role="img" title="blush">:blush:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163687257" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163687257">(Apr 18 2019 at 20:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like I can’t reply to a message on mobile</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163687280" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163687280">(Apr 18 2019 at 20:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>going to ping you guys about all this on monday</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163687534" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163687534">(Apr 18 2019 at 20:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span>  happy vacation!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163687714" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163687714">(Apr 18 2019 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163709683" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> defunct <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163709683">(Apr 19 2019 at 03:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>hey, apologies if this isn't the place. i'm new here but not to OSS development. I just wanted to say that i really think the effort being put forth to the WGs, documentation and the RFCs around contributions specifically for the compiler team, are great. It was actually <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> blog post about "more than coders" that sent me down the path to taking a deeper review and ultimately ending up here.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163715948" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lokalmatador <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163715948">(Apr 19 2019 at 06:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>In reply to <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="218492">@defunct</span> , same for me, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> blog post brought me here, looking for possibilities to contribute</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163933234" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163933234">(Apr 22 2019 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="218492">@defunct</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="218716">@lokalmatador</span> I've just arrived from vacations and saw your messages here, were them replied?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163933401" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163933401">(Apr 22 2019 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> and I were talking about a <code>learning WG</code> you can check about it here <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/learning.20WG" title="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/learning.20WG">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/learning.20WG</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/163933442" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#163933442">(Apr 22 2019 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>unsure if that's your thing, but may be one of the places to contribute :)</p>



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<p>the idea would be to build rustc learning materials</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.04.18/near/164013305" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> defunct <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E04.2E18.html#164013305">(Apr 23 2019 at 17:58)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> thanks for the reply and information :)</p>



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